Sorry to throw water on the above comments, but I purchased my PPQ 22LR 4 yesterday, cleaned it (watched the video to be sure I did it right) then took it to the range. In a bad situation, youre able to get more rounds more accurately on the adversary more instinctively..(if that makes sense!) As for comparing triggers, all 1911 are single-action, and PPQ is a double-action pistol, you remember that, right? In under 1k rds the slide cracked. It was my go to target gun and I was shooting 3 or 4 times a week. Capacity:12+1 These troubleshooting tips will cover everything from failure to feed, to failure to eject. Let me put it this wayafter six months of owning, carrying and shooting this pistol, I can safely state that the Walther PPQ M2 is everything the P99 isand then a whole lot more. Now, after lots of dry-fire practice and about 5000 rounds at the range, I better understand why its called Quick Defense Trigger. The styling is elegant and trim. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. The Walther PPQ M2 a new version of the PPQ M1, which came out about three years ago was a . The front and rear flat-bottom slide serrations allow for a secure hold when pulling back the slide. Rapid fire no issues. Equipped with standard three-dot, polymer sights, the PPQ has accompanied me on almost every shooting day since I purchased it, and for good reason. As a .45-aholic, I once felt compelled to add a 9mm item. Its one of the most corrosion/wear resistant finishes you could ask for on a production pistol. No trigger pull required. I called Walther and they said my gun is well past its intended life span. However, its my understanding that the standard 4 slide version and the 5 slide version use the same type of barrel so you could add a thread adapter to either of those models as well. My advice is the ditch the factory sights on the PPQ. The PPQ M2 .22's slide is hard anodized, CNC machined aluminum. But I will take the quicker reset myself. The following are its causes and their solutions. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. In all my shooting life, I dont think Ive ever come across a pistol that would be as hard to speak ill of as the Walther PPQ. I consistently hit a 10 inch plate at this distance using Remington Viper ammunition. Walther P22 Q Variants. The aluminum paddle is so much better looking and feeling, and only take a session or two at the range to master. Sights: front sight is 3-dot low profile polymer; rear sight windage adjustable, steel night sights available, Barrel Length: 4.0-inch barrel for 9mm, 4.2-inch barrel for .40 S&W, Weight Unloaded: 21.7 ounces for 9mm, 22 ounces for .40 S&W, Weight Loaded: 24.5 ounces for 9mm, 24.9 ounces for .40 S&W, Overall Length: 7.1 inches for 9mm, 7.2 inches for .40 S&W, Grips: Cross-directional textured tactical grip, Additional Features: quick-defense trigger, three backstraps, ambidextrous slide release, reversible mag release, serrations on front and rear of slide. Lots and lots of cracked slides on many of the pot metal (zinc alloy) .22s out there. I thought these days that stuff was for cartridge collectors only. The review mentions jacketed round nose and jacketed hollow point ammunition. It works with easily visible sights that give faster target acquisition. Locking block damage: One relatively uncommon cause of this issue is locking block damage. didnt cycle consistently, and neither did Federal gold medal match (711B, 1080 fps). PPQ-M2 9mm stock is ready to go. This hits hard because I feel how you do about sig (320) and my first pistol was a ppq. Walther said that is all they had because the gun (original version) is no longer made. You have to replace the entire magazine to fix this problem because once the feed lips on a steel magazine bend, they dont bend back the same way. I know one of the brands has a solid reputation though. These troubleshooting tips will cover everything from failure to feed, to failure to eject. If I had to choose between the PPQ and the VP9 I would take the PPQ every time. Okay, shooting any gun to me is a blast, but I find a special kind of joy when I shoot the PPQ. The Walther PPQ . I took it apart and everything was clean. For long-term durability a steel breech block, containing the firing pin mechanism, extractor, breech face, etc is pinned into the slide. I put my G19 on a shelf in preference of the PPQ M1. Walther PPQ. I just picked a Trijicom set. TRUGLO TFX: Best Fiber Optic Sight. Size restrictions do apply, as the 15-round PPQ magazines are only compatible with compact frame PDPs. PPQ M2 4-INCH 9MM Field Test. Here are the different types of gun malfunctions and what to do about them: Squib Load. Just to rule out limp-wristing or any issues with grip, have you had someone else shoot it? You actually reminded me I should probably get it looked at and fixed. Desirably ergonomic, smooth firing, reliable, accurate, loaded with a double-stacked magazine of 9mm, large enough to serve as my go-to sidearm for outdoor activities and yet condensed and light enough to be my concealed carry or self-defense piece if I need it to be, this is definitely one of my personal favorite handguns. Ive been searching but cant find anything (which may be my answer) that supports a concern about current Walther PPQ M2 9mm 4 reliablity and factory response. Remember, it resides in a channel, not out in the open, like you have it. Looks like that one would not get in the way of the sights? I dont believe that these were meant to be activated by the thumb and these folks should try using the trigger finger to actuate the magazine release. Three backstraps accommodate different shooters as well. There are only a couple of light scratches on the slide and no sign of rusting or corrosion anywhere at all. Overpowered ammunition: The overpowered ammo will blow the slide back so hard that it will engage the slide stop. Certainly there are many manufacturers who make button releases that are truly ambidextrous use, the M2 is much like the G19, in that it requires a configuration change to switch. Several times, the PPQ went back into its case grimy, dirty and/or wet before I had the chance to wipe it down and clean it. There are tons of options in .22 WMR (winchester magnum rimfire aka .22 Mag) for legitimately jacketed, not plated, bullets. Its especially a nice advantage if this is going to be your nightstand gun. The high bore axis is not something people should be dealing with when it comes to modern polymer guns. . Thanks for the nice review. But come on what can you reasonably expect when you try to warranty a 10-year-old product that had a 1-year warranty? But in the six months Ive owned it, at least 500 rounds have been put through it between myself, my family members and friends. These are built by Walther, not Umarex. Steel targets no problem. That's the MOST annoying part of the debacle; a company that won't stand behind its product. The PPQ M2 .22s slide is hard anodized, CNC machined aluminum. Great gun, like the paddle mag release, love the trigger. And i also say that once the 3 stage trigger is mastered on the P99 it operationally is better than the PPQ. It is very astonishing for a .22. The stainless steel construction is excellent. I far prefer to check for a round in the chamber using the tactile methodworks in the dark, and without taking your eyes off of whatever they may be on. One of those moving parts is an internal hammer, which is a big divergence from the striker-fired centerfire models. I havent cleaned or lubed it, though, and its still running like a champ. I was a Walther fan immediately after I purchased the PPK/S .380ACP and the .22LR. Walther PPQ M2 Navy 9mm. I was Shooting my PPQ last week and i was having problems with it not loading rounds properly. PPQ 45 is an efficient gun with good ergonomics. The rounds seem to eject and feed fine, looking at the ejection port when the slide is stuck doesnt seem to reveal any issues there. Its a marked improvement over any other pistol Ive ever fired, and its what I look forward to the most when I shoot the PPQ on the range. On the other hand: I did try the PPQ M2 in 9mm, and it be sweeeeeet. The PPQ is my absolute favorite handgun to shoot at the range, but Id never carry one for defense given the ultra-fine reset. I attribute this to many qualities of the pistol: the ergonomics, trigger, and good engineering from Walther. Despite being a complete gun, with a street price of like $310 to $340 the PPQ .22 is actually less expensive than many conversion kits. Purchase a Walther at your own Risk. If you want a pistol with a lifetime warranty then buy one (many other Walther models have lifetime warranties for the original purchaser). But nope. PPQ problems. . I have always considered that to be much more reliable. Glock 19 now sits in the safe. We encountered an issue with the PPQ SC when manually cycling the slide. The PPK/S .22 has a small barrel sleeve that fits over the end of its threaded barrel. A lot of people seem to complain about a sharp recoil, muzzle flip? Great gun though. Turns out it fits my hand wonderfully and was very comfortable. Every gun has an Achilles heel, and for the PPQ its the limited number of aftermarket accessories. That resulted in a lot of FTE/FTFs and was like having a bolt-action pistol. The M1 is the German original and I got used to it over night! A notch will engage the slide stop when you have an empty magazine, and the last round comes out. In the box you will find one magazine. You wont regret purchasing the 9mm (assuming you havent already). Walther dropped the original PPS's unusual "QuickSafe" striker-disconnect feature. Its only stupid if the gun is smarter than the operator. I have yet to hear any major reliability issues from other people as well. Put Trijicon Orange Dot HD night sights and a Crimson Trace green Railmaster Pro, and you have the Ultimate Home Defense rig. The full-size Walther PDP frame offers an eyebrow-raising 18+1 rounds on tap, making the grip too long to accommodate shorter PPQ mags. Field Test Results for the PPQ M2 4-Inch 9mm for Each of my 10 Criteria: 6. The basic maintenance and care include springs and parts that you should monitor every 5000 rounds or so. I usually carry a G30S, but sub in the PPQ occasionally, since it fits my 30S holsters very well and draws about the same to first pair. They sent a new compensator. True. Whats the difference? I see that as getting use to the trigger. Will try 25 yards next time. You have to make sure that you have a firm platform for the gun to operate against. This by the way, is where the PPQ meets its major roadblock. (Thats all I brought with me.) Unfortunately 18 round magazines are no where to be found - a failing by Walther. Bent magazine feed lips: Another probable cause for the failure to feed on your PPQ is when you drop your gun on concrete or anything solid like that, the magazine feed lips bent. I can proudly say I own both the P99 AS in 9mm and a PPQ M2 in .40 and i find both guns to be almost on par with one another. 1 more mm and it is sticking out of frame to the right. You have entered an incorrect email address! On the plus side when compared to a .22 conversion slide, the PPQ route is a complete pistol so it isnt just a paperweight when it isnt installed on your frame (which then, of course, turns your centerfire upper into a paperweight). The Tenifer finish is as tough as nails. glad it worked out,,,,nothing worse then a brand new gun with issues. Until that Element 2 is released from jail, however, Im using a 9mm can w/ fixed mount adapter (my Liberty Mystic) for all of my suppressed .22 LR shooting needs. I gotta pay my rent too you know, jerks. Below mentioned are all the probable causes of failure to feed and their solutions: Magazine not seated properly: One possible reason for failure to feed is that the magazine is not seated correctly into the frame. Disassembly of the PPQ is straightforward and easy to get used to. Turned out the firing pin was snapped in half, and the grip frame wasn't made right. Generally, too heavily lubricated means that you have used a lube that was good in warm weather, but now, the lube gums up the gun in cold weather. A squib is a round that does not have enough powder charge to send . Anyway, I like the PPQ, and I like the P7 the CCP copies (poorly). Who makes and where did you get the upper left muzzle break. Not sure about what's being said on the forums, but I can offer my own personal experience: Thx all. Then you will have the best of all worlds. Also the P22 and the M&P22 and probably others as well. That isnt an uncommon thing for folks to do and itll probably obscure your sight picture a bit here. Unless the operator is unaware or ignorant of firearm safety. Am I bad for preferring the PPQ M1 paddle mag release? I was ready to destroy it and throw it away, but Walther stood behind their project and now I still have a decent (although worn out and beat up) P22. I had a new Steyer start behaving oddly at the range. Improper hand placement: Improper hand placement is the most common cause of this malfunction. Barrel Length: 4 inches. This, coupled with the fact that many of those rounds were fired while Ive carried the PPQ in a holster as my sidearm in some wet and rough conditions, makes me well assured in its reliability. A firm tap from the back put it back in place. Walther PPQ M2 FDE 9mm. I have 2 M&P 40s, full size and compact, but wanted a decent 9. The Walther CCP M2 trigger has a short .27 travel and a short reset point. Recommend to clean the gun every 300 rds. 2 of my friends already bought one. Below mentioned are all the probable causes of failure to feed and their solutions: Now listen, just because the PPQ fits so well for me doesnt mean it will for you too. Again, its back far enough that I tend to touch it with my strong hand thumb, which prevents it from moving up and locking the slide back on empty. I added Talon grips on my P99 and once this is done ergonomically it is almost the same as the PPQ. The pressure generated by a .22 lr just doesnt require thicker steel. I have one of these and the 22LR version. I have not seen any problems with it though. Plus, theres other lead exposure from shooting bare lead bullets and it messes up the inside of your suppressor a lot more as lead will vaporize and fragment off from the hot gasses and going down the bore, etc. Running 22 pistols with my cans is just too much fun. Archived. Dirty Pistol: One reason for this issue is that your pistol is dirty. Walther claims a forever warranty. WRanger is top SD and LEO ammo and I'd be suprised if that was the issue but until you try other ammo it will be speculation. Use as home defense is beyond question useful. hey guys in this video i show you how to fix the walther PPK slide when it starts to jam up on you.. Picked up a Walther PPQ in 9mm a few days ago as a replacement to my P99. I should mention that the sightsaretaller than most .22- or rimfire-specific suppressors on the market. I hope Walther will be able to correct this in the future if the PPQ keeps up its popularity, but for now the customization options are sadly disappointing. The sleeve underneath the rear sight is missing: A specific sight uses an expanded roll pin to hold it in place. I got one of the new VP9s, it is good, but I still carry the PPQ. Having some problems with my Walther PPQ m2 jamming. Ammo-sensitive. According to the Walther website it IS zinc alloy, so somebody is wrong (and I hope its Walther???). Try some better quality ammo like WWB. How can someone dry fire safely but not follow a safe empty the gun procedure for cleaning. Obviously the 12-round mags are approximately 20% more fun than your typical 10-round mags, and this helps to make the PPQ M2 .22 LR insanely fun to shoot overall. The solution to this problem is to replace the front sight. In many ways, the P99 is everything the GLOCK isand then some. It will replace my 4" PPQs. Please Wait. Average 5-shot group size is 1.77 inches. Full-Size Advantage in a Subcompact Frame: The New Walther PPQ SC, New from Walther Arms: PPQ M2 Q4 TAC 9mm Handgun [VIDEO]. Damaged feed ramp: A damaged feed ramp can also cause failure to feed. Sights Stock. Im not registering my finger. Not as happy with the 22LR version. The same adapter fits the PPK/S (which I also checked out a while ago). Ive had mine since May. . However, the normal PPQ .22 mag is a 12-rounder, which does set it apart from the very much industry standard 10-round capacity. But the PPQ is as close to perfect as I could wish for. It has a hair more creep and a very slightly longer reset and the reset is softer in noise level and feel its light but overall Id say that the differences arent easy to feel when shooting and that if youre familiar with one youll feel right at home on the other. I spanked her with Trijicon HDs and carried her in a Black Mamba and felt that we could now rip the knob off the radio dial! It feels very good and the reset is wonderful. Its now pretty darn dirty, having shot about 400 suppressed rounds through it and another 50 or so unsuppressed and the factory oil and grease doing a good job of attracting carbon and other crud. So, make sure to clean the carbon build-up. 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