LARRY KING, HOST: Tonight, cell phones and cancer -- is there a link? (END VIDEO CLIP) KING: Dale Cochran, you have heard a lot of the discussion tonight. In 1978, Cochran once again became part of the citys legal force when he joined the Los Angeles County district attorney's office, although he eventually returned to private practice. They say that makes it the most safe. Click here to go to our international version. Yet. They may be using cordless phones as well, which we also know are risk factors based on data. BLACK: It was in the skull, yes. It's more the individual's responsibility. I'd certainly agree with that. Unfortunately, you know, my suspicion is that it's going to be five years or 10 years before we have a definitive answer. BLACK: the side that you develop a brain tumor on. KING: But if it is a cause and can be helped by using ear phones why not? First, Dr. Schwartz, we don't even know how we think. Weekly Auction ends Monday February 27!. And I think pretty much everyone knows if you are x-rays all the time, that's not good. And there's really no good mechanism by which non-ionizing radiation can cause brain tumors. Because of widespread coverage of the Simpson trial, Cochran entered the superstar realm of celebrity, reportedly receiving a $2.5 million advance to write his memoirs. .css-m6thd4{-webkit-text-decoration:none;text-decoration:none;display:block;margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;font-family:Gilroy,Helvetica,Arial,Sans-serif;font-size:1.125rem;line-height:1.2;font-weight:bold;color:#323232;text-transform:capitalize;}@media (any-hover: hover){.css-m6thd4:hover{color:link-hover;}}Ken Starr. We don't know how we think and how processing in the brain results in appropriate speech, based on different functionalities at different locations of the brain. I use cell phones. BLACK: Again, I think the emissions from cordless phones in the house are very low, and I would be less concerned with those than cell phones. They don't recommend carrying a phone in your breast pocket. The control group uses cell phones. And his doctor says cell phones may have played a part in his disease. Simpson, meanwhile, was held liable for the killings following a 1997 civil trial and ordered to pay the Brown and Goldman families $33.5 million in restitution. And that's what we've done. KING: What were his last days like? BLACK: Larry, typically no. You can see it here. We have a little montage here for you. Flamboyant in public, he kept his private life shrouded in secrecy, and when some of those secrets became public following a 1978 divorce, they were startling. Larry, we're going to go inside the ear here to the inner part over here. He is editor of MicrowaveNews.com. KING: Did you have to do a biopsy? By mid-decade, hed entered private practice with Gerald Lenoir and soon launched a firm of his own, Cochran, Atkins & Evans. J. COCHRAN: The resolution of this case is in no way an admission of guilt by Michael Jackson. He came on national television two weeks ago, and I'll quote you: "I think the evidence that is accumulating is pointing towards an effect of mobile phones on tumors. Since gaining a reputation in Ebony magazine as "the best in the West" in the early 1980s, Cochran eventually became the go-to guy for black celebrities in trouble. For example, in Australia, there are 22 million cell phones and 21 million people. "Certainly, Johnnie's career will be noted as one marked by celebrity cases and clientele," the family said in a statement. This is a great, exhilarating victory for Sean Combs. It used to come in a bag. D. COCHRAN: On a regular basis, yes. The jury is still out. JONATHAN COCHRAN, JOHNNIE COCHRAN'S SON: I look at it now and it seems like he was taken too soon. The main point is that if one is concerned about the emissions from cell phones, you can get rid of it almost entirely by a Bluetooth or ear plug. -- Dr. Black. (END VIDEO CLIP) KING: Sanjay Gupta joins us. It provides sensation to the rest of the body. For more health information and action on health policy, sign on at: www.health-journalist.com. KING: One type of tumor often mentioned in the discussion of potential risk of cell phones is acoustic neuroma. Select the best result to I don't know anyone who didn't like him -- defense attorneys who opposed him, prosecutors D. COCHRAN: Oh, yes. KING: I want you look at something on the screen now. Even as a child, he had loved to argue, and in high school he excelled in debate. [9] Prison [ edit] In the March 8 episode "Marcia, Marcia, Marcia," it was revealed that Johnnie Cochran's ex-wife, Barbara Jean Berry, had accused him of domestic violence, a claim which he denied. Joining us now from Washington, Dr. Michael Thun of the American Cancer Society, vice president of epidemiology and surveillance. Ton can buy a new 1953 Ford 2-door Sedan delivered in 174q Ardmore for a 1177 Sam p. Hale phone 708 since 1911 balancing. BLACK: Well, the -- in the developing brain, you have a lot more dividing nerve cells and supportive cells in the brain. Reacting to news of Cochran's death Tuesday, Jackson had kind words for the lawyer he considered "a great humanitarian. D. COCHRAN: You know, it was a very quiet period of time. WebJohnnie Cochran's widow speaks publicly for the first time since her husband's death. @@*@@* FILE @@*@@*Attorney Johnnie Cochran Jr. holds onto O.J. And I think when I had kids, I became more interested in it, frankly. KING: And how far has the -- SLESIN: What we're missing is the understanding of how this could possibly work. Death. Did he die at home? I use it on the speaker phone mode. Shortly thereafter, he told the New York Post he was feeling well, and that he was in good health. We strive for accuracy and fairness.If you see something that doesn't look right,contact us! Famed attorney Johnnie Cochran died Tuesday in California of a brain tumor, his family said on Tuesday. He was 67. Johnnie L. Cochran Jr., who became a legal superstar after helping clear O.J. Simpson during a sensational murder trial in which he uttered the famous quote If it doesnt fit, you must acquit, died Tuesday. And, you know, even if you look at the manuals and things like that, they'll tell you that there is a, as Dr. Black said, the further away you put the phone from your ear, you know, the much safer it is. ", He said other members of his defense team also deserved credit for his acquittal, but added: "Without Johnnie running the ball, I don't think there's a lawyer in the world that could have run that ball. We'll have a quick vote. He died at his home in Los Angeles on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 from a brain tumor. The overwhelming majority of studies that have been published in scientific journals around the globe show that wireless phones do not pose a health risk. The family moved to California in 1943, where the younger Cochran eventually excelled as a student in what was becoming a more racially integrated environment. THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. It is a great pleasure to welcome to LARRY KING LIVE Dale Cochran, the widow of the famed attorney, the late Johnnie Cochran. Brad has a phone in his breast pocket. Your Privacy Choices: Opt Out of Sale/Targeted Ads, Name: Johnnie Cochran, Birth Year: 1937, Birth date: October 2, 1937, Birth State: Louisiana, Birth City: Shreveport, Birth Country: United States. He's chairman of the Department of Neurosurgery, director of the Maxine Dunitz Neurosurgical Institute at Cedars-Sinai. But, more importantly, my particular interest is to accelerate discoveries in the treatment of brain tumors, which is why I am so happy that we've established the Johnny Cochran Brain Tumor Center. After returning to private practice, Cochran built his firm into a personal injury giant with more than 100 lawyers and offices around the country. They certainly cause car accidents. And, dad, I know that you are the best dressed man in heaven. GUPTA: Yes, I do. And I use an earpiece. Simpson. That's what people should do. In-universe information. BLACK: Headaches. This advancement opens up new avenues for medical research and the possibility of transplantation therapies for conditions such as neurodegenerative diseases Simpson, reached at his home in Florida, also praised Cochran on Tuesday, saying "I don't think I'd be home today without Johnnie. So we don't know what long-term effects that will have on memory as our young adults age and other KING: So this is a cause of concern? Were cell phones to blame? This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, Amidst much debate over the case, Cochran entered the national spotlight and became a celebrity himself, making screen appearances and writing his memoirs. Cochran, who died in 2005, also is a central character on the FX series American Crime Story: The People Vs. O.J. Now that we're back, I can't help but wonder, if the most important thing is finding treatments, then where was the outcry when the FDA tried to close down a Texas doctor who was successfully treating the disease? This is a scan that somebody would get in the doctor's office. But if you are worried about the fact that people use phones all the time -- they have them to their ear all the time -- this would be a much safer bet than something like this. KING: He's still living? KING: Is that memory loss a major cause of concern, Dr. Black? Each of you gets a pair of my suspenders autographed by every "American Idol" finalist. Watch. It gives me an opportunity if I want to go into politics. But -- and that's been one of the red flags that has raised concerns among people that are looking into this, whether there is a correlation because, you know, we see tumors developing in the location -- close to the location that people do use cell phones. "But he and his family were most proud of the work he did on behalf of those in the community.". Sanjay is over by our board. I keep coming back to it. And the FDA also recommends keeping cell phones away from your head by using a speaker phone or using a head set or other connection to remote antenna. 1-800 What indication did he give you that something was wrong? This was the mid'80s. So you can't run a comparison like tobacco and lung cancer, the user and the nonuser. Do you believe that cell phones are harmful? Web5.03M subscribers 522 Johnnie Cochran represented Geronimo Pratt for free for 27 years until he got his wrongful conviction overturned and freed him from his life Gracie remembers he is the murderer, and phones the police. ", "Johnnie Cochran was a true gentleman who embodied class, brilliance, honesty and integrity," Jackson said in a statement. The food -- by the way, we'll show you a screen effect here. It's how to best treat it and how to help them. KING: Like Ted Kennedy had? Gender. If that makes sense to you, then, (according to an electrical occupational engineer with whom I spoke) you can minimize risk by doing any or all of the following: Turn off your cell phone when not in useNever sleep with your cell phone in the bedroomAvoid using your cell phone (or keeping it turned on) in the car, or for that matter, any other self-enclosed metal container If you feel your head heating up, end the call (even if you're speaking to your beloved, boss, or mother)Use some form of headphone or earjack but not a blue tooth, which places the transistor right in your earLive in an area out of reach of cell phone service, And hey, let's not forget mobile telephones, internet wireless, and all those other technological goodies we've gotten so addicted to that life wouldn't be complete without them. He died from a brain tumor on March 29, 2005, at the age of 67. Are you more confused when you listen to the two doctors? And I think particularly among young people who are logging, you know, thousands of hours KING: Teenagers? First, what do you think of the theory of the possibility of the cell phone causing brain cancer? BLACK: That's considered, you know, a significant increase, although the overall incidence of brain cancer is low. Johnnie L. Cochran Jr. was born on October 2, 1937, in Shreveport, Louisiana, to Hattie and Johnnie L. Cochran Sr. He's associate professor of neurosurgery at the Canberra Hospital. In the 1950s, he became one of two dozen black students integrated into Los Angeles High School. Health, food and environmental journalist; radio host, Progressive Radio Network. "The clients I've cared about the most are the No Js, the ones who nobody knows," said Cochran, who proudly displayed copies in his office of the multimillion-dollar checks he won for ordinary citizens who said they were abused by police. And, again, you know, although there hasn't been any definitive studies, there have been some studies that show a correlation between the side that you use a cell phone on and the side that you use KING: If it's the left side, you're going to get it on the left side? KING: So you should check it out, any symptom? The Food and Drug Administration made recommendations about cell phone use. Rather than a tumor, he called his ailment a neurological condition requiring a procedure. (The conviction was eventually overturned after more than two decades. You know, they didn't give off enough non- ionizing radio frequency to be a problem. Yet we know that we do. They had performed some studies, MRI scans. We need to be -- we need to have an open mind. This is a phone people probably became most familiar with. BLACK: I use a cell phone, but I always use an earpiece. Dr. Black mentioned that some of the studies are actually looking at the cell phone usage found. He was in New York at the time and had been admitted to a hospital in New York. Joining us in New York is Lewis Slesin. When Cochran helped Pratt win his freedom in 1997 he called the moment "the happiest day of my life practicing law.". KING: Is that something that you would possibly associate with cell phones? GUPTA: Well, let me give you a picture here, Larry, to sort of show you this. D. COCHRAN: Yes. WebJohnnie Cochran - Death. They declined. WebPortrayed by. And part of that's due to Dr. Black, because I talked to him a couple of years ago about this and KING: Really? GUPTA: Well KING: You had to be suspicious or why -- why bother with the earpiece? D. COCHRAN: Cedars-Sinai Johnny Cochran Brain Tumor Center. BLACK: Yes. Around this time, Cochran began to build a reputation for taking on cases involving questionable police actions against African Americans. Both defense attorneys Robert Shapiro and Johnnie Cochran believed from the outset that Simpson was guilty, Toobin says. KING: Is this much safer than that? Upon passing the bar, Cochran worked as a deputy criminal prosecutor in Los Angeles. GUPTA: Yes, I think so. So here you've got a control group that uses it, and you have a user group that uses it. It doesn't fit. Santa Rita has a higher jail death rate than Los Angeles Here is a look at the people who died: 2014: 10 DEATHS. D. COCHRAN: I don't really like to use the word terminal. D. COCHRAN: He died at home. But, you know, I've read all these studies, Larry. You are right. But as Larry has also said, if there's a known cause, and if there is a possibility of even mitigating the incidence even slightly, that would be helpful. The major do is use one of these wired ear pieces. KHURANA: OK, Sedesky (ph) from Israel, the Israel arm of Interphone, this is what she says: "a positive dose response trend was found. But I do want to say that if you look at the literature now, most of the data shows that there is no link. The precautionary principle is a fancy version of the old (unproven) adage "better safe than sorry.". Things were changing, the size of the phone, the quality of the phone, but also the amount of radiation it gave off. The whole family was there, all of the kids and myself, his sisters, his father, who has lived with us for a number of years. The following decade, Cochran won a huge, unprecedented court payment for a 13-year-old molested by an officer. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. All Rights Reserved. Cochran died at 12:30 p.m. PT (3:30 p.m. Their answer might surprise you and it's next on LARRY KING LIVE. But in the Simpson case, Cochran turned the murder trial into an indictment of the Police Department, suggesting officers planted evidence in an effort to frame the former football star because he was a black celebrity. Legal Statement. So I guess it's your call! Cochran died at his home in Los Angeles, his family said. They saw an abnormality within the brain. "His fight for justice transcended color, age or economic status. Non-ionizing is less problematic, I think, than ionizing. KHURANA: I do, Larry. And unfortunately, you know, as you showed at the beginning of the show, there's a billion people, you know, that will be using cell phones and they will be using cell phones for many years. Time now for Anderson Cooper and "A.C. 360" -- Anderson. A lot of scientists will say that. BLACK: That's correct. GUPTA: They come with the phone. However, CTIA did provide us with this statement: "this is an issue that should be guided by science. He died from a brain tumor on March 29, 2005, at the age of 67. Simpson (search) against murder And I think it's a great idea if you are worried about it. A brain tumor killed the famed attorney and father of three at the age of 67. GUPTA: I do. Often times, these phone come with a holster. 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